Carl and Laura Lentz are speaking publicly about infidelity, forgiveness and rebuilding their marriage again with the release of their new book, Overcoming Infidelity.
But there is another person whose life became part of that very public story.
In 2023, Rachel sat down with Ranin Karim, the woman whose relationship with former Hillsong NYC pastor Carl Lentz became one of the biggest scandals surrounding the megachurch.
Now, with Carl and Laura telling their story again, Ranin has provided a new statement about the conversation happening today. We’re bringing back Rachel’s original interview because her perspective feels just as relevant now as it did then.
Ranin takes Rachel inside how she says she met Carl without initially knowing who he was, when she discovered he was married, how their relationship continued, and the private conversations she says they had as everything began to unravel.
She also opens up about being labeled “the mistress,” why she ultimately decided to speak publicly, the Hillsong culture surrounding Carl, and why she believes accountability extends far beyond one affair.
At one point, Ranin says Carl told her not to worry because her name was being buried.
Her response became much bigger than the scandal itself: she wasn’t going to allow someone else to decide how her story would be told.
This is an encore presentation of Rachel’s 2023 conversation with Ranin Karim, newly introduced with Ranin’s response to the conversation surrounding Carl and Laura Lentz today.
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